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09/14/2014

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Clark West

Thanks, Steve. That's very helpful.

Steve Shiffrin


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In the second paragraph I assume that the exclusion by the organization is based on deeply held religious convictions, but I do not believe a University has
to recognize and subsidize organizations that discriminate on the basis of race or sexual orientation regardless of their reasons for doing so. I agree that the effect is to privilege some theological sets of beliefs over others, but not because the state
has made a theological judgment. The state has made the political judgment that racial equality and equality for gays and lesbians is important for the polity.

Steve

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I may have misinterpreted your question. Suppose an organization excludes any person who engages in sex outside of heterosexual marriage whether gay or straight.
The impact of the policy is to exclude gays. That impact in my view should count as discrimination against gays even though the policy covers more than gays. I think the same of neutral regulations that have a discriminatory impact on the basis of race, but
the Court has long held that impact without intent in the area of race does not give rise to any form of heightened scrutiny.

Clark West

Steve,
This may be a naive question, but what if the organization insists that a core belief is sexual expression only within the context of heterosexual marriage. In other words, if they insist that this is an essential part of their religious identity.

I have heard it said by some evangelicals that those who support same sex marriage and/or non-heterosexual sexual behavior are not actually Christian.
Of course I disagree, but why would this exclusion be any different from excluding a non-Christian from leadership. IF their theology rejects as non-Christian the non-celibate lgbt person, regardless of how that person self-identifies, can one restrict them legally without wading into the murky waters of privileging certain theological systems/beliefs over others?

In other words, could not your argument in your first paragraph be made by those who run afoul of your restriction in your second paragraph? How would you respond?

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